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ITIL is the hitchhiker's guide, COBIT is the encyclopaedia
Blog entry submitted by skeptic
on Fri, 2007-12-07 22:16. [nid:423] As the IT Skeptic digs (happily) deeper into COBIT, I ponder the difference between COBIT and ITIL. In my simple layman's mind, ITIL is the hitchhiker's guide, COBIT is the encyclopaedia, rather like the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy and the Encyclopedia Galactica.
That truly astonishing book, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Apart from the fact that ITIL is more expensive and it has large xrays of plants and animals on the covers, Douglas Adams could be speaking about ITIL and COBIT. ITIL is relaxed to the verge of sloppy (e.g. the use of the term "process"). ITIL is boisterous to the point of controvertial (Service Strategy on value networks). ITIl has many omissions compared to COBIT. ITIL focuses on operations, and mostly ignores development/solutions. ITIL seldom ventures into project management or portfolio management, and it skips a lot of aspects of request management. Most of all, COBIT systematically chronicles a checklist of all the things we ought to be doing, and their properties, but ITIL explains how.
Spooky the correlation with ITIL and COBIT, innit? An encyclopaedic entry recording the existence of a chemical called alcohol is of considerably less interest than a practical guide to the preparation, imbibing and recovery from the universe's best drink. To expand the analogy to the real-world equivalents to Douglas Adms' creation, I was much happier to have a Lonely Planet guidebook in hand when arriving in Lei, Ladakh or Punta Del Este, Paraguay, than a copy of say Collier's World Atlas and Gazetteer. The fact that the Lonely Planet books are incomplete, out-of-date, opinionated and unreliable is far outweighed by their usefulness and practicality... and dammit! their humanness. Their very fallability and quirkiness is a great part of their attraction. So it is with ITIL.
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Nice. Very Nice. Though I
Nice. Very Nice.
Though I was expecting a comparison between OGC and the Vogons.
if OGC came and demolished the odd planet
In a way it would be preferable if OGC came and demolished the odd planet. At least we'd get to see them. And their poetry can't be any worse than their website...
COBIT and ITIL
Dear Skeptic,
The industry interest in COBIT and ITIL being utilized together has been increasing over the last 2 years and now I know why – excellent piece. The COBIT Steering Commmittee are in the process of completing the development of the COBIT 4.1 and ITIL v3 mapping and the document is scheduled to be ISACA members and in the ISACA bookstore towards the end of Q1 2008. We are moving the development forward as quickly as possible to answer the numerous requests we have had of late for the publication.
Robert Stroud
Chair, COBIT Steering Committee.
What a shame ITILV3 didn't take the opportunity
Thanks, Rob, and welcome back: long time no hear. I look forward to such a mapping, and good on COBIt for doing it. What a shame ITILV3 didn't take the opportunity to do it in the other direction while the books were developed.
P.S. "Robert E."? Careful, mate, people will think you're a Yank.
ISO 27001, COBIT and ITIL!
Dear Skeptic,
I too am looking forward to the mapping and it should be available for review shortly. Additionally, the COBIT Steering Committee is planning a refresh of the publication co-developed with the OGC; “Aligning COBIT, ITIL and ISO 17799 for Business Benefit: Management Summary” (visit the ISACA website for a free download of the current version). This document will be refreshed to COBIT 4.1, ITIL V3 and ISO 27701 and assuming all relevant approvals, it is planned to both the ITIL and COBIT perspectives whilst providing greater insight into their use with the exceptionally relevant security standard ISO 27001.
Current planning, approvals dependant, should have the new document will be available no later than the first half 2008.
Robert Stroud
Chair, COBIT Steering Committee
Good Comparison
The "Don't Panic" sticker is probably: "ITIL is not from the auditors" ..., I would compare APMG to the vogons and maybe OGC are the mice ;-)
Encyclopedia and Guide
Hello IT Skeptic
Yes I do share a mutual fascination and respect for the writings of Douglas Adams. He has an amazing gift of wisdom and insight that hits you between the eyes at the same time you are chuckling under your breath. Having had the pleasure of working on the development of both the COBIT and ITIL models I see and agree with your analogy of Encyclopedia versus Guide.
Perhaps one way to look at this is that one needs the other (kind of a co-dependant relationship). We need an Encyclopedia for reference and audit but also need the guide with its humanness as you put it, to give us context, application, opinion and perhaps even humor. It really comes down to the difference between facts/ knowledge versus wisdom/insight and yes, informed opinion.
There is a place for both in our Galaxy, even when not everyone agrees with the opinion part. At the very least it gives us something to discuss as we down our recreational beverages.
Cheers & Merry Christmas
Troy DuMoulin
a BOK with the depth of ITIL and the breadth of COBIT
Merry Christmas to you and all those at Pink. ("Pinkies"?)
I agree the two complement each other. Shame about the mismatch. Perhaps one day we'll have a BOK with the depth of ITIL and the breadth of COBIT or ISO20000: now that would be something.
What a great analogy!
This has to be the best analogy I have ever seen. I love it! I'm for sure stealing it, if you don't mind.
When people ask my the difference I say simply, "CobiT tells you what you should be doing and ITIL tells you how to do it."
But there is so much more to it than that and your analogy captures it perfectly. CobiT is so much easier to grasp, it's the everyman's framework.
I'll take mine with an olive.
Bill