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 <title>USMBOK</title>
 <link>http://www.itskeptic.org/proliferation-itil-v3-introductions-and-pocketbook#comment-5793</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;yes Dave, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usmbok.org/usmbok_guide.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&quot;&gt;USMBOK&lt;/a&gt; is definitely worth considering.  Big heavy book and quite technical, but generalised beyond IT.  More of a comprehensive classification than introductory educational explanation though&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>skeptic</dc:creator>
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 <title>Yep I do</title>
 <link>http://www.itskeptic.org/proliferation-itil-v3-introductions-and-pocketbook#comment-5792</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;Good initiatve. Dutch universities do this already for some years. If you want the students to also obtain the ITIL Foundation exam I should pickt the Van Haren Introduction. You can have the university accredited via EXIN. They have special arrangements for universities (and other public education). Drop me a line if you want to know more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Otherwise I would have a look at Ian Clayton&#039;s ITSM BOK (do not know if I got the name of the book 100% right)&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>pjotrg</dc:creator>
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 <title>It&#039;s a healthy sign - but I&#039;m not sure what to pick</title>
 <link>http://www.itskeptic.org/proliferation-itil-v3-introductions-and-pocketbook#comment-5782</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;I would be worried if there were NOT many people writing books on it. I don&#039;t see a &quot;dummy&#039;s guide&quot; from IDG though (wait an hour).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any topic which is more than an obscure niche has many people writing both tutorial texts and more advanced. Do an Amazon Search on &quot;project management&quot; or to keep it closer to ITIL, pick a single methodology - say &quot;prince2&quot; or &quot;pmi&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What I don&#039;t see are hints to my particular need. I have put my hand up to teach ITSM to students in their final year of an IT degree. I&#039;m doing this because I think that these concepts are important for our students; not because I am an expert. I&#039;m not by any means , I&#039;m mainly a network/sys-admin guy. But I will try to do as good a job as I can in preparing my students, and know I will get better over time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I really REALLY need a textbook to help my students. Yes I will be using online articles, pulling pieces in from the ITIL library, MOF, BECTA-FITS and the sceptic will be seen often, but I&#039;d like something to tie it all together. And it needs to be accessible to people who do NOT have the context of having worked for years in IT depts.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does anyone have any suggestions?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
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 <title>a backlog of book reviews</title>
 <link>http://www.itskeptic.org/proliferation-itil-v3-introductions-and-pocketbook#comment-5781</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;As an unpaid service provider, I have a backlog of two book reviews already: CMDB Imperative and Building an ITIL-Based Service Management Department.  If OGC and TSO and itSMF all worked as one team we&#039;d have one good official book.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>skeptic</dc:creator>
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 <title>poor ITIL newbies</title>
 <link>http://www.itskeptic.org/proliferation-itil-v3-introductions-and-pocketbook#comment-5778</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;Well the poor ITIL newbie on a limited budget doesn&#039;t have to buy all these books - just one will do if it is good enough. However they&#039;re &#039;expected&#039; to buy the complete set of the ITIL Lifecycle suite - currently selling for $483.81 acording to the amazon link on your blog. If these foundation books weren&#039;t around they really wouldn&#039;t have a choice but to spend nearly $500 ($785 at full list price!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps you could do the poor newbie a service and publish reviews of the foundation books mentioned so they have an informed choice rather than relying on guesswork.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Chris&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
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 <title>many more beginners&#039; books</title>
 <link>http://www.itskeptic.org/proliferation-itil-v3-introductions-and-pocketbook#comment-5777</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;...and then there is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/908753051X?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thitsk-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=908753051X&quot;&gt;IT Service Management - An Introduction based on ISO 20000 and ITIL V3 (English version) (ITSM Library)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thitsk-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=908753051X&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1439226334?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thitsk-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1439226334&quot;&gt;Foundations of IT Service Management: The Unofficial ITIL v3 Foundations Course in a Book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thitsk-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1439226334&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9087530579?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thitsk-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=9087530579&quot;&gt;Foundations of IT Service Management Based on ITIL V3 &lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thitsk-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=9087530579&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1921573252?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thitsk-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1921573252&quot;&gt;The ITIL V3 Service Management Awareness Pocket Guide - The ITIL V3 Pocket Toolbook&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thitsk-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1921573252&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1438243065?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thitsk-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1438243065&quot;&gt;Introduction To Real Itsm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thitsk-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=1438243065&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt; (Oops! how did that get in there?)  But like the BCS books, they don&#039;t have the official swirls and stuff plastered all over them. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course one more book does have all the logos on the cover: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/011331079X?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=thitsk-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=390957&amp;amp;creativeASIN=011331079X&quot;&gt;Passing Your ITIL Foundation Exam&lt;/a&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=thitsk-20&amp;amp;l=as2&amp;amp;o=1&amp;amp;a=011331079X&quot; width=&quot;1&quot; height=&quot;1&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; style=&quot;border:none !important; margin:0px !important;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Poor poor ITIL newbie on a limited budget....&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>skeptic</dc:creator>
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 <title>And not forgetting....</title>
 <link>http://www.itskeptic.org/proliferation-itil-v3-introductions-and-pocketbook#comment-5776</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;BCS, The Chartered Institute for IT, also have a introductory book coming out: [http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=nav.10905 IT Service Management Foundation: A Guide for Foundation Exam Candidates]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Together with a [http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=nav.10906 Foundation Level Practice questions book] it will be the start of a series of books we&#039;re publishing in the ITSM area. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As you say open competition is good to see. We&#039;ll just have to hope that quality will win the day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Matthew&lt;br /&gt;
BCS Book Publisher&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Matthew Flynn</dc:creator>
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