The IT Skeptic - Comments for "the ITIL industry is worth about $2 BILLION to $5 BILLION per year"

I'm on holiday!

KeithAldis — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:39:15 +0000

Crumbs! Give me a break! I'm on holiday now until the 28th August. The Memorandum & Articles of Association (Mems & Arts) are public domain documents so that's not a problem - anyone can get them from the UK's Companies House anyhow (usually for a small fee).

I'll get the itSMFI and itSMF-UK webmaster to sort this out - Certainly when I get back. Both companies are of course independent of each other.

The Operating Philosophy (Philops) for itSMFI (now called the "Rules") will need to be cleared with the Board for release outside of the Chapters as well as being updated to incorporate recent and older ratified updates. They are itSMFI documents and not public domain. Chapters will have them, but i'll see what I can do.

There is no "official" document entitled Bylaws although there are drafts of such bylaws for itSMFI, but I cannot release these as they remain draft and subject to approval by the Board and ratification at the AGM assuming they are raised for discussion at the meeting.

Hope this is clear.

Good to see Jim Prunty back in circulation.

Yours in ITSM!

Keith

Fair enough...

J J Prunty — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:49:12 +0000

Sacred cows make the best hamburger!

the articles of association for itSMF

skeptic — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:24:45 +0000

Thankyou Keith. Please can you also post

the Articles of Association
Bylaws
Operating Philosophy

for International (and whatever equivalent docs for UK) on the website too and we can all play Guess Which One Applies :-D

There ought to be no sacred cows!

KeithAldis — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:31:56 +0000

Thanks.

"Warning"? I think you are reading too much into the word. Perhaps I should have said notification. That's just my poor command of the English language. We Brits are known for it!

Should we publish the statements? I don't see why not. They'll be in the hands of the Chapter Representatives for discussion within the Chapter Boards and so virtually in the public domain, anyhow.

I don't believe we've ever done that before (i'm new don't forget!), but that doesn't mean we shouldn't. I'll check it out - if you see 'em come up on the website then you'll know the answer. If you don't, simply engage with your local Chapter and ask to see them. If you are a member, then they should let you.

Fair enough?

Cheers!

Yours in ITSM!

Keith

It wasn't intended to be funny!

Visitor — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:05:25 +0000

Using the terms sad world, properly structured, democratic open and transparent process to describe itSMFi seems a bit bimodal. Continuing on the idea of transparent, will the 200 word board candidate statements be published on the web site?

Out of curiosity, you used the phrase “advanced warning” (with emphasis added) in the announcement for the AGM and elections document. Why is a “warning” necessary?

Very funny.

KeithAldis — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:16:35 +0000

Very funny. I like the comment. In my sad world, any properly structured, democratic open and transparent process is exciting!! Perhaps I ought to get out more? Ho! Ho!

Yours in ITSM!

Keith

Forthcoming Election

Visitor — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 04:58:42 +0000

Exciting news? Did I miss something?

Worth or value!

KeithAldis — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:13:17 +0000

Skep

I've not been blogging for a while. Not so sure about the new navigation on your pages. Seems a bit over complicated for a simple chap like me!

Some interesting comments I see on your site and the debate on itSMF is continuing - albeit still with a tinge of unnecessary self destructiveness (is that a word?). I guess that's the nature of blogging though.

However, just in response to your bit on the worth of ITSM. I don't think you are too far from identifying the amount of spend on ITSM globally. It's likely to be more but one of the tasks i've set myself over the next 9 months is to survey the industry, primarily on skills and employment but also to find out the "size" and impact that the industry has. I estimate that there's about 150 - 200k people working in the UK. Which extrapotated, could be as many as 20M worldwide. All engaged in ITSM at one level or another. Plenty of room for everyone I guess.

This is a pretty big industry indeed if what you say and what I say actually and in reality, stacks up. But of course, cost and value are two entirely different things as you know. The value of what we do, far outweighs the cost!!! Doesn't it?

By the way, check out the itSMF International website (www.itsmf.com) for exciting news on their forthcoming election process too!

Thanks. Keep blogging and keep the faith.

Yours in ITSM!

Keith